Call To Order:

7:13 pm

Attendance

Present:

Benny Borrelli, Ed Day, Dave DeBruyne, Jim Gommenginger, Jon Karnisky, Todd Mazzo (8:07), Bob Sheremeta, Geoff Silkey,

Apologies:

Kenny Wade

Guests:

Christy Karnisky. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Little late. Accepted.

Financial Report:

Accepted.

Officer Reports

President:

CJ tendered his resignation from the board owing to commitments elsewhere and he feels he is not able to offer as much as he should. Would not like to accept outright and will ask him to serve in a voluntary capacity for the rest of his term, with a view to coming back at a later date.

Vice President:

Nothing to report

Secretary:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

Do we want to go with print cheque program? Yes. DD to go ahead and set that up.

Scorekeeper:

Updated stats on distribution of scores. Not nearly as good as last season, not as bad as last year.  Website fees are in.

Protest Commitee:

None yet.

PR Committee:

Nice new posters – leaving some with Johnny Lee to take to the store. Lombardi’s want to talk to someone about getting a board put up. Have a team ready to go.

ADO Rep:

Sanction application has been submitted for the Open in January. It’s gone through the area representative and has been forwarded to the area manager for consideration.  2012 dues have been paid so that roadblock is removed. Expecting positive result but can’t put sanction pending on any communication. Women’s subsidizing ideas for local and regional events: Binghamton not currently operating but have a lot of talent down there. Combined reciprocal local events with Syracuse? Waiting for dates to set up local qualifiers for the next round. 50-50s are great but need more.

Old Business:

Money League:A lot of positive feedback from those playing. A non-player was concerned about the disparity in a six team division if we had one. Don’t think we can hold the tournament at Ira’s any more. Do we open up to non-league players? Perhaps at a different entry fee rate? Should be allowed only if the money league players agree. Polled members of the league playing at the bar - $5/$10 rates seemed to be OK by them.

Newsletter: DD to update

Elections for next year: BB, RS, TM, GS up, CJ’s spot for one year, ML replacement, JK to sit out KW’s term.

New Business:

Update from Open Committee: Met last week without GS. BB and JK met the owner with Andy B making the introductions.  Scoped the room out – furniture is now bolted to the upper deck walls. Quality Inn giving $59 per night ($40 off). Blocking off 30 rooms. Pat wants in for event sponsorships before end of the year – done! Also wants to supply cozies etc. – OK!

Sign-up Duties: Are we going to go with $500 input again? $350? How about $5 match per entry, $240 minimum. Always 100% payout. BB/JG to run tournament, ED/TM to do sign-up, RS to run 50-50. Re-run survey? Yes (JK). Will need boards at sign-up and money league tournaments.

Open Discussion:

Bundy can’t do board inspections any more. Will deal with that in January.  GS wants window pane stickers – we have bumper stickers already and it might be possible to organize something.

Adjourn:

9:30 pm

Call To Order:

7:17 pm

Attendance

Present:

Benny Borrelli, Ed Day, Dave DeBruyne, Jim Gommenginger, Jon Karnisky, Bob Sheremeta, Geoff Silkey,

Apologies:

Chris Juliano, Todd Mazzo, Kenny Wade

Guests:

Jen Lenhart. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted.

Financial Report:

We got one! Balance not bad for end of year. DD asked if we want backwards statements or just maintain moving forward. Board sentiment was that we’d prefer to have it all in order and checked if at all possible.

Officer Reports

President:

Back here. A few scares but survived them all.

Vice President:

Nothing to report

Secretary:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

Nothing to report

Scorekeeper:

Long Pond team folded from Division C. Ira’s Militia and Jukebox was forfeited by Jukebox but Militia didn’t contact hotline on the night so points are not secured.  Disparity in large margin wins is getting worse. Most people prefer to not have byes we think.

Protest Commitee:

None yet.

PR Committee:

Nothing to report

ADO Rep:

No women’s tournament again. Brainstorming ideas for raising funds beyond the 50-50. Joint initiatives between the leagues (lottery calendars, tournaments, other ideas?). Recent developments include making the regionals open (and not just if your particular region was not holding a qualifier). ADO dues are due at the end of the year. Board voted to maintain membership of ADO into 2012.

Old Business:

Money League: Things running well in the main.  Letter from Steve gave a fairly broad spectrum of feedback.

Newsletter: DD and ED are almost ready to submit items for the July 2011 newsletter, which will therefore be hot and cutting-edge current.

Calendar for next year: New version, which is already outdated because of Bill Lenhart memorial tournament (minuted later).  JK will update again.

Midseason Wrapup: 12 teams at Ira’s, 12 at McGinnity’s. BB and JG did a great job.

Elections for next year: JK, BB, RS, TM, KW?

New Business:

Jen Lenhart: Jen came to the meeting – she would like our help with a memorial tournament for Bill, and of course the GVDA is happy to oblige. Either a one off or annual. Soft tip might be interested in doing a joint event. March (midseason) may be a bit hectic but May might work better. Jen will be able to help in the lead up, engaging people for sponsorship, family/friends, etc. and is also interested in providing a door prize, most likely a Cancer Sucks item or similar fundraising company. May 12^th target date was decided on.

Update from Open Committee: Initial meeting held last week.  Potential flier distributed. Feedback: Another event (open doubles? 301?) to fill Saturday? Stagger men’s and women’s by half an hour.  Fun events should be held between cricket and blind draw. Sponsorships available for boards, non-sanction (ADO point) events, on-site supplies. Joel C has agreed to do the board sponsor signs. Meeting notes shared and next steps and help required passed on.

Concerns from bar owners: Liability seems to be a hot issue – shouldn’t be a problem with any reputable insurance. Decorations from breweries don’t make money, dartboards do bring in revenue. Take down that free mirror and put up a board!

Proposal for division changes: Byes and disparities are bad, mmmK? Smaller divisions (4? 6?)

Open Discussion:

Adjourn:

9:30pm

Call To Order:

7:14 pm

Attendance

Present:

Ed Day, Jim Gommenginger, Jon Karnisky, Todd Mazzo,

Apologies:

Benny Borrelli, Dave DeBruyne, Chris Juliano, Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade

Guests:

Bob Sheremeta. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted.

Financial Report:

Dave not here. Working on online banking

Officer Reports

President:

Not here.

Vice President:

Dave not dead – travelling back.

Secretary:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

Not here.

Scorekeeper:

Quiet so far. JK ran numbers for score distributions. Not as bad as last year but not as good as last season. 7-1 is up alarmingly (17%) and there do seem to be a couple whipping boys unfortunately. 4-4 and 5-3 still makes up a healthy 62% of matches played. A lot will depend on who comes back for Winter season and who comes in from soft tip, etc.

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report

PR Committee:

Not here.

Old Business:

Picnic Wrap up: Venue got the thumbs up – food and setup went well. The turnout could have been better and was disappointing. Evite next year to get a good idea of number in advance.  Wegmans is conveniently located if large number extra show up then and so we are not making way too much food. JG suggested a splash page on the standings to draw attention to it. Next year it will be after league play again.

Money League: Well received so far – likely due to the single leg format. JK to get some quotes to use for next season to try and get more involvement. Expect to see it grow.

Newsletter: DD owes president’s corner and ADO update. ED to put together article and anyone else should submit theirs to JK in the next week and a half.

Calendar for next year: JK presented draft calendar. Do we want to print color ones to post in bars? Yes.

New Business:

Midseason Duties: BB and JK to run McGinnity’s.  DD and JG to run Ira’s.

Tournament for February: JK to call GS and DD in the morning to bring them up to speed with these late developments: To make ADO sanction, we need guaranteed $1000 payout. Andy talked to Sunset lanes and they are prepared to put up half of it (and the room) if we have a signup and midseason there to show good faith. Looking to hold Winter signup and one midseason tournament there. Looking at last week in January or first week in February to hold the event. Need to figure out what events to hold and what to charge (over email in coming days). Have to hit the ground running as we need to get in the newsletters etc.

Elections for next year: TM thinks we should have them. Thanks Todd. RS to stand in for rest of the year pending agreement with absent board members. 5 or possibly 6 (one 1-year term) open positions to fill in January.

Open Discussion:

It was suggested that lighting and boards at many venues are still substandard in many places. Could try to get a read on light at inspection but many take place during the day. An assessment at least can take place and recommendations made to the captains and tavern owners. Boards that look to be in poor shape can be protested for sure (before play begins) but ultimately the only recourse is to bring it to their attention.

Adjourn:

8:19pm

Call To Order:

7:17 pm

Attendance

Present:

Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Jon Karnisky, Todd Mazzo, Geoff Silkey,

Apologies:

Jim Gommenginger, Chris Juliano, Kenny Wade

Guests:

Benny Borrelli. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted.

Financial Report:

Statements are coming now.  PIN is available. Online banking can now go ahead. Bills are automatic – Pins invoice is outstanding.

Officer Reports

President:

ED and JK visited Kenny Wade again. Updated board on condition. DD is back. Asked Joe Hogan, local area rep about ADO membership slots for members from Buffalo, etc. – it’s fine if they join GVDA. Got some more networking in.

Vice President:

Nothing to report.

Secretary:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

Nothing to report

Scorekeeper:

Four teams didn’t call in the first night. JK needs to update an average calculation.

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report

PR Committee:

GS to talk to Rock Brewing.

Old Business:

Picnic: JK had to buy his own shirt. Ordered 5 extra XL shirts this year. Brett can’t sell us beer but pointed us in the right direction. 8 30-packs sorted 4 BL, 3B 1Y. DD to pick up beer, JK to pick up ice and totes. ED paid deposit and got the key. We have the shelter 9am to 10pm technically.

Signup Wrapup: We got about 10 extra for the boost in prize money. We want to take it forward to another signup to see if we get any more. Increased by three teams. JK checked 5-8 payout – it was actually double usual (only double money, not 4x as rumoured). Certificates got a decent response – didn’t see any lying around at the end of the night.

Money League: Kicked off as we speak.  No hotline calls yet! Teams are playing each other 4 times but slightly different cycles. John Isaac missed captains’ meeting but otherwise that meeting went well. We have $150 set aside for the end of season tournament – see if Pat is interested in sponsoring the event. There are three on the sub list at the moment – we’ll see if we can get any more onto the list, but all teams are fully rostered right now anyway.

Replacement Board Members: DD moved to bring Benny on for the rest of the year, pending elections in January.

New Business:

Next ADO thing: Salt City is running a cricket qualifier tonight. We’ll probably go ahead and do one. Offering ADO non-general membership might get some shooters from Buffalo and New Jersey area. Might do a run-out to the Brew Pub to canvas there.

Newsletter: Time to put the next newsletter together.

Calendar for next year: January 3^rd will be signup, December 18^th will close fall season. Draft will be put together for next month’s meeting and approval.

Open Discussion:

None

Adjourn:

8:47pm

Call To Order:

7:15 pm

Attendance

Present:

Ed Day, Chris Juliano, Todd Mazzo, Jon Karnisky, Geoff Silkey,

Apologies:

Dave DeBruyne, Jim Gommenginger, Kenny Wade

Guests:

None. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted as adjusted.

Financial Report:

Getting a new PIN and then setting up online banking to eliminate service feesand then reporting.  Balances healthy. All but minimum balance will be transferred from ADO to GVDA account.

Officer Reports

President:

(JK on behalf of DD) JK and ED visited Kenny Wade in hospital.  The board and GVDA sends best wishes to Kenny and his family.

Vice President:

Nothing to report. Reports of DDs demise are premature – he’s just in New York and CT.

Treasurer:

Nothing to report

Secretary:

Nothing to report

Scorekeeper:

Old Toad forfeited so we moved up teams from the lower league for playoffs as adjusted in the rules previously. McGinnity’s that got the respite took their match all the way.

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report

PR Committee:

TPs have no room. McGuinnes were interested but want to talk to DD about equipment and the like. Irish Rover were not so interested but looks like they’re closing anyway.  Hatters also showed interest and DD has the leads. Salvatore’s in Webster very interested but it looked difficult to fit a board. JK suggested the Salvatore’s in Irondequoit. TC Hooligan’s, places with soft tip machines in general to help existing teams who want to keep their venue.

Old Business:

Picnic: JK has numbers for catering estimate - chicken (boneless thighs and quarters), burgers, hot dogs, Salad, salt potatoes, mac salad, etc. Slogan for T-shirts: “So this is what fresh air and daylight looks like”. Burgers and dogs extra should make it a decent slush fund in case we do up the numbers ($20 more).

ADO Regional: Pat Christmas qualified.  Johnny Lee lost the tie-breaker for second.  Cali West qualified for the women.  Amy and Penny tied for second and Penny is likely to be the alternate). Players were happy with McGinnity’s for a venue particularly for beer selection and overall a success.

Pin Order: JK ordered 100 T80 pins, 100 9-ct and 15 hattricks.  Slightly different design should be on its way imminently.

Certificates: JK working on them now.

Money League: Current thinking is we’ll have 6-8 teams. JK suggested separate account for money league.  Rule book will be sent to board members tomorrow most likely. 7pm start and players put up first thing. Four core players plus 2 subs is maximum allowable. Captains’ meeting will be held a week after signup. GS asked about the burden on the scorekeeper – he will process on Saturday night and teams have until noon on Saturday to call in.

New Business:

Sign-up packs: Need to find alternative means of generating. Minute Man in Perinton seems most likely venue.

Fall sign-up duties: JK will run money league sign-up. ED and CJ to run tournament. TM and JG can run signup and DD/GS to float.

Fall Sign-up Eligibility: Should Summer only players be eligible to play the fall sign-up?

Charity Donation: Tommy Williamson won the donated prize of entry to the money league.

Replacement Board Members: Matt Alexander’s spot will be elected in January.

Open Discussion:

GS suggested a minimum attendance expectation from board members at tournaments to ensure that nobody gets burnt out and there is always plenty of manpower.

Adjourn:

8:36pm

Call To Order:

7:15 pm

Attendance

Present:

Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Jim Gommenginger, Chris Juliano, Todd Mazzo (7:40), Jon Karnisky, Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade (7:16)

Apologies:

Guests:

None. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted.

Financial Report:

Nothing to report

Officer Reports

President:

Nothing to report

Vice President:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

Nothing to report

Secretary:

Nothing to report

Scorekeeper:

Running like clockwork to date this summer.

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report

PR Committee:

Nothing to report

Old Business:

T-shirt: JK and DD have further enquiries out there. Waiting to hear back on estimate for shirt as is. Perhaps we should move forward with what we have. JK can send a letter to all bars to see who responds. Next month pull trigger for deadline then communicate by email. Can ask beer vendor, etc.

Picnic: Food, Beer: How many cases do we want to get? 60 people would be including kids – 40 people for beer? We are expecting higher turnout this year.  Two half-barrels worth of cans would be 160ish cans. 10 cases of 30 (60/40 to the light side) should leave us in a good position. DD looked at Sticky Lips, Dinosaur and Beale St. (JK: Bad to the Bone is another option). $580 is lowest price before gratuity and taxes and in some cases paper products for two entrees and two sides. ED has call in to Christy – waiting to hear back. Tina and Amy both willing to contribute dishes to lighten load.

Picnic: Shirts: Need ideas though not as urgent. $325-ish last time. Approved to go ahead again.

June Qualifiers Wrap-Up: We built up enough cash and sent a woman but not enough women at the regional. Having qualifier memorial day week didn’t help and similarly with the timing of the regional event.  We got a handful only. Next event is August (1^st week – 6^th or 7^th) in Rochester..

Promos: JK passed around preview materials. Attend soft-tip tournaments to talk to people? Should add cost of fall signup to the flyer to make sure they realize they can pay and play on the night.

New Business:

Midseason: At McGinnity’s June 28^th.  We have four stanchions here. Need setup from 6pm. GS to run tournament. Want to be prepared to run 20 teams at double elimination. Let’s plan on bringing an extra stanchion so we can run 7 boards. Chalkers prizes would be in order: shirt, bottle, cash. 50/50 raffle.

ADO Participation: Cali West said she’s running leagues where people can play other members in 6 player divisions at any time by deadline – self scheduled. As each division fills up it’s rolled out. Can offer discount to those that attend all/multiple $20-in tournaments or hold a drawing for those that attended all, etc. Could offer a $10-$15 ADO only membership. 50/50 sign-up raffles to build up a kitty

ADO Regional: Have 2 stanchions already at Ira’s. Need 3 back from Jukebox and 3 more from storage or from Pat Allen. Dan Inman will let us know in advance if turnout is likely to be much higher. DD to check with Ira’s if they are available and organize food service if so. Setup ideally on Friday night.

ADO Complaints: Rumblings about late notice/DD spread thin/not getting points.  Turns out only Freddy is eligible for points (singles) as he didn’t list himself as GVDA or something. Zip Miller also has points that went AWOL. DD trying to clear things up with Dan and ADO office.  Will send materials to JK so he can distribute.

Stanchions: DD wants inventory. 4 at McGinnity’s. 3 at Jukebox. 2 at Ira’s. 5 with Mulconry’s (Pat Allen – 2 are refinished). 3 are with Hilton Hamlin and still unpaid. The rest are at JK’s for storage. GS asked what options we have for refinishing? Brush-on rustoleum may be best. Powder coating may chip / rust when banged and is expensive (could do one as showpiece). JK and JG have access to sandblasters. Bill W may be worth asking for estimate. Want 8 done for August.

Money League: Johnny Lee and JK talked – looking at 13 single leggers for a money league on Thursdays. $7 per week for 28 weeks per person for a $200 total team cash prize is not in the same league (pun intended) as we could offer. $3 a week per person for 14 weeks for $200 total team cash prize with second place breaking even should be attractive. League would have to sustain itself. Tom would surely be prepared to sponsor such a thing, right? Tournament and slush fund would be funded by it too. Example: 6 team division of 4 players with payout of  $240, $160, $100, $60 would leave $400 for tournament and slush.

Certificates: Several examples of self-printed certificates of notables presented, for once-a-year, once-a-season, etc. with more T-in and T-out included. JK to check into back orders and look at alternatives if appropriate.

Open Discussion:

Board members’ bios aren’t very soft tip friendly. JK hates being politically correct but sometimes he really has to. Perception is reality so let’s make adjustments.

Adjourn:

9:42pm

Call To Order:

7:28 pm

Attendance

Present:

Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Todd Mazzo (7:41), Jon Karnisky, Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade

Apologies:

Jim Gommenginger, Chris Juliano,

Guests:

None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted.

Financial Report:

Still healthy.

Officer Reports

President:

DD went to Cleveland for a tournament. Talked to Buffalo players again – very interested in a joint tournament. Noted that people get disgruntled very quickly when things don’t run smoothly. Had music playing courtesy of Pandora which seemed well received and not too much of a distraction.GS asked about beer prices $3:50-ish for Blue.

Vice President:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

N/A

Secretary:

Asked JK to please check last two months’ minutes for red text.

Scorekeeper:

Playoff notes: Only two 5/6 seed teams made it past first round. Only one 1^st seed won. Encouraging to hear the positive feedback about the six division teams and competitive matches.

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report

PR Committee:

Nothing to report

Old Business:

T-shirt: Joel C is a potential. We don’t need to sell all of the advertising space – JK to get a quote with what we’ve got so we can discuss options at the next meeting,

Match Timing:.GS provided sheets to JK. Most of it is legible and the rest had notes.

Picnic update: Chicken popular.  With picnic date changing Christy K might be available again. Salt potatoes will be feasible with stove facilities and turkey fryer pots, etc. Could we possibly get part catering from Dinosaur, Sticky Lips or Beale Street? More expensive certainly. Mighty Taco will have address 420 Jefferson Road? – wow.

Treasurer Duties: DD offered his services to set up financial software for the league.  ED could take on management for fall sign-up potentially.  Also Amy D may be willing to do the task. DD wants to avoid cash withdrawals – although ATM is convenient, checks are more readily auditable. ATM receipts properly notated could work except for midseason tournaments where daily maximum might be exceeded.

New Business:

Summer Signup: Need setup of stanchions starting at 6pm. ED to run tournament. TM to do signup. JK wants to have trophies for signup this summer which we usually don’t do.  People do enjoy taking the hardware home.

Summer Rules: Any serious suggestions for rule experiments for summer season? Plenty of silly ones.

Promos for remainder of year: Promotions page on the website to self-serve flyers, etc. Fall season special - $10 or $15? $10 preferred. Midseasons, signups, picnic, ADO, etc. events will be available.

Open Discussion:

Dan Inman expressed interest in running 501 regional tournament in Rochester in August again this year. Ira’s or McGinnity’s potential venues. Region desperately trying to get more women involved in ADO. Please bring ideas.

Adjourn:

9:00pm

Call To Order:

7:02 pm

Attendance

Present:

Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Jim Gommenginger, Chris Juliano, Matt LaGrett (7:04), Todd Mazzo (7:07), Jon Karnisky, Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade (7:14)

Apologies:

Matt Alexander

Guests:

None. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted.

Financial Report:

There isn’t one.  Tabled for next month.  DD still needs to put together report after MA’s resignation.

Officer Reports

President:

MA tendered resignation from the board for work reasons. ML tendered resignation because he’s moving to FL.

Vice President:

Nothing to report. 

Treasurer:

Not here. Not going to be either. Address etc. transferred to Matt’s address.  DD is still a signer on account and has the only other check book along with all outstanding cash and paperwork. 

Secretary:

Nothing to report.

Scorekeeper:

Two thankful captains called – it was down to opposing captains that saved them from losing points. Stats of the season’s results demonstrated the divisions outside of metro are running much closer attributed to new 6 team format.  Geoff Silkey working on his non-calling reputation.

Protest Commitee:

Complaint filed about Windjammers. Patron caused issues with visiting captain despite home captain’s attempt to keep the peace and the visiting team walked out after three matches. The team will be moving to Ira’s for the rest of the season. The board will discourage teams moving back to the tavern unless board is moved.  The new width rule may make the board position illegal in any case.

PR Committee:

GS can drive around flyers, including one geared towards the Hilton Hamlin league for summer season.

Old Business:

T-shirt: Need to start pushing hard to get spots sold so we can run them in time for fall signup.  Ideas discussed about moving ahead with whatever is sold and shifting design around as necessary.  Pat Allen wanted color and we will need to ensure costs are still in line with incoming sponsorship.  Priority is to make sure we have a shirt come to fruition.

Match Timing:.GS has timing sheets for JK as does MA.  Neither set available tonight.

Invoices for tavern fees: JK not aware of who has paid and who has been invoiced, etc.

Little Big Wrap-up: Went well – turnout 20 pairs and 32 went into the singles. Dan Inman came from Syracuse and 5 from Buffalo, who both want to get together with GVDA for events. GS and JG ran a good tournament according to most comments.  DD needs to explain to Penny that she owes the GVDA $300 for the 3 stanchions they bought.

Trish’s 501 fix: JK suggested we pilot the rule with the bottom division in the fall rather than over summer.  Consensus was yes.

New Business:

Picnic update: Harris Whalen is booked.  Laws of Penfield apply and shouldn’t affect us too much.  JK wants to talk to Brett about beer.  Talk about food next time.  Got discounts for town residence and booking online.

Future Tourney option: Do we want a repeat of the Jukebox? Yes.  Buffalo wants to get together with Lockport to try and get something going. Twice a year, maybe quarterly although interest tends to drop off.  JG suggested getting sponsorship money involved for next time.  Also suggested running it about a month before Syracuse to operate as a warm-up for many local shooters.  JK wants to set up an initial meeting for a tournament committee, possibly looking at the Diplomat as a venue.

Summer Signup: 17^th May at McGinnity’s (not Stucko’s).  JK will call Colleen to make sure food is available.  Stanchion’s will need to be set up at 6pm.

Open Discussion:

Adjourn:

8:30pm

Call To Order:

7:29 pm

Attendance

Present:

Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Chris Juliano, , Todd Mazzo, Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade

Apologies:

Matt Alexander, Jim Gommenginger, Jon Karnisky, Matt LaGrett

Guests:

None. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted

Financial Report:

Some statements not in yet.  Moving away from paper statements but MA not here. JK got 1099 – DD and MA have signature permissions.  Address moved.  Electronic access set up.  One more address (Verizon account) to transfer. Accepted.

Officer Reports

President:

Talked to people at Syracuse and Albany tournaments.  Feelers found a lot of interest about coming to Rochester again.  Good representation at Syracuse Open – CJ asked about relative size of leagues. 

Vice President:

Not here

Treasurer:

Not here

Secretary:

Read duties of secretary/treasurer from by-laws.  Nothing to report.

Scorekeeper:

Not here

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report.

PR Committee:

DD did PR smoozing at Syracuse/Albany instead of GS who stayed home.  CJ has availability on Fridays at the moment and is looking for overview flyers, a “FAQ” if you will.  TM has a lead with a keen lady.  City magazine called at Syracuse.  DD talked to Brent about possible sponsorship/prize contributions (in kind rather than direct cash).

Old Business:

T-shirt: No updates on sales.

Match Timing: Circumstantially speaking – last minute smoking/lack of preparedness for next match seems to be major issue.  Data still being gathered.

Picnic location: Two to choose from – Harris Whalen and GCL.  Went through benefits and concerns for each.  Voted by majority for Harris Whalen (Sept 10^th).  ED to book.

New Business:

Midseason: 34 at Ira’s.  24 at McGinnity’s.  Both went double elimination successfully.

Ashton’s:  To shut.  JK to work with teams to determine their intended new taverns/new schedule.  The Shooting Stars may be going to Sunset.

Little Big Tournament: April 2^nd at Jukebox.  Bar is committed for $2 per head up to $100, Hilton Hamlin and GVDA both committed for $100.  Want to talk to Rochester Beverage etc.  Can’t take out of the pot for chalkers’ prizes if advertized as 100% payout.  DD suggested using a 50-50 to fund the prizes.  Will need 3-4 stanchions.  Can probably use those already at McGinnity’s and HH to avoid major East side West side extreme commute.  Also possible promotion on Labatt’s through contact.  Board members should take a print out of the flyer to their league match next week.  They may want some stanchions set up in the back room in case of running late.  JG and KW have trucks available.  Will just need hardware at some point from JK

Open Discussion:

Idea from Trish to speed up play in the lower divisions – limited rounds when both at double 1.  After 5 rounds, closest dart takes it?  Other options – allow single out, reset to 32, etc. less favored.  For doubles, all four would shoot.  401 doubles stipulation:  Player not in would be able to actually hit double 1 to win, but not be just the closest as they are not in play.  Experiment over summer?

ADO regional next weekend at the Polish American club.  Didn’t get much by the way of notice.  DD will personally call likely candidates.  We have money banked to send some players.  Want to run a last minute tournament @ $20 entry fee too. 

Adjourn:

8:49pm

Call To Order:

7:09 pm

Attendance

Present:

Matt Alexander, Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Jim Gommenginger, Chris Juliano, Jon Karnisky, , Todd Mazzo (7:36 pm), Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade

Apologies:

Matt LaGrett

Guests:

None. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted

Financial Report:

TM queried USPS entry – PO Box renewal.

Officer Reports

President:

Nothing to report

Vice President:

Nothing to report

Treasurer:

Changed address to MA’s home address. MA and DD added to signatures. TM getting tax exempt status 501C to eliminate $2/mo and getting electronic banking to eliminate some other fees. JK needs 1099 form. GS: Deposited signup? TM has.  TM asked for sign-up sheets – JK provided. GS and JK want more careful notes taken at sign-up. Accepted.

Secretary:

Needed confirmation of contact details. DD asked for both email addresses to be used.

Scorekeeper:

GS asked if messages intelligible? A lot of drunken babbling and dribbling but otherwise OK.

Protest Commitee:

Nothing to report

PR Committee:

CJ talked to manager at Salvatore’s. Still waiting to hear back. MA had a wrong number lead from JK for place in East Rochester.

Old Business:

T-shirt: JK passed out updated flyer with updated sold spaces. CJ asked if emailing logo to JK OK? Yes.

#1 in darts: Nothing to report really

Match Timing: ED has new sheets to send out tonight (for metro and other divisions). CJ asked if at 10:30 both captains can agree to one game takes the match. Rules do allow for captains’ agreement to adhoc such matters. JG brought up earlier start – why 7:30? JG suggested switching singles matches with doubles matches. We can put all suggestions out there and give notice (perhaps in June for consideration over summer) that we’re going to put earlier start to the vote at fall sign-up. JK proposed filling out line-outs at the beginning.

Goals: MA – encouraging current membership to participate more at non-league events. JK proposed midseason bonus points based on turnout. GS asked about signups and other events – signup is harder with rosters not settled, etc. JG expressed strong reservations based on members enjoying the week off and would prefer membership vote on any such change. ED wants to see larger joint tournament, with Hilton Hamlin. JG has already been talking about such a thing. Also interest from Syracuse to do something together – GS  said we would need to build up slowly. JK concerned about joint nature of event. Sounds like GS, JG and Penny are good to go. March may be a little soon but JG  to look at getting a date. Blind draw format general preference of the board. Look at per head put up by bar, flat money with or without league sponsorship – Tournament director GS to bring a plan to the next meeting. GVDA commitment discerned after plan and idea of HH commitment will be. DD hoping to talk to Cali next week at the Open. GS asked is April 2012 Rochester Open too aggressive? Consensus leaning slightly towards fall. Genny, FXM, CB leads to investigate.

New Business:

Picnic location: New options from DD

Deposits: JK dropped off some kids at the pool. TM needs to deposit another check. DD urged timeliness.

Invoices for tavern fees: When can we get them out? Tomorrow or in the next week.

Communication: In between board meetings. Looking promising so far this year.

PO Box: DD can take responsibility as it’s on his commute. JK concerned about getting adds. What about second key? MA took over key and is now responsible for supplying player adds/drops, date, etc. and documentation in timely fashion to JK.

 Stamps.com envelopes don’t get postmarked. We should put out there that postmark is required or it’s dated when picked up.

Playing areas in taverns: JG has noticed a lot of places with very tight/insufficient throwing spaces.  Wants an addition to the league rules (existing setups must be grandfathered in) to require lateral space as well as space behind the oche. For future we definitely want to ensure lateral space of 2 feet either side of center. Approved by vote.

Midseason: JG/DD/GS at Ira’s, MA/CJ/KW at McGinnity’s

Open Discussion:

JK showed proportions of match results. Lot more close matches to date than last season. Welcomed news. Bylaws are up on website. MA asked about flyers – JK asked if MA is asking bartenders permission to hang/hanging/etc. – posting somewhere obvious first, asking permission second, leaving behind bar if not. JK suggested as close to soft tip as possible. DD checked that MA is asking bar staff/owners to be on the lookout for regular shooters too.

Adjourn:

9:51pm

Call To Order:

7:23 pm

Attendance

Present:

Matt Alexander, Dave DeBruyne, Ed Day, Jim Gommenginger, Chris Juliano, Jon Karnisky, Matt LaGrett, Todd Mazzo, Geoff Silkey, Kenny Wade (7:33pm)

Apologies:

Guests:

None. Volunteers: None.

Previous Minutes:

Accepted

Financial Report:

 JK has sign-up sheets – TM requested copies to review payment.  Report will come via email once ADO funds sorted.  New fee schedule is coming – we’ll review once available.

Officer Reports

President:

DD welcomed newcomers to the board

Vice President:

GS wants files from JK.  Lost in the ether somewhere. GS to check junk folder.

Treasurer:

Nothing to report

Secretary:

Passed out contact sheet. ML has bizarre email problem.

Scorekeeper:

Kevin McGinnity is the worst caller in the league.  A few scenarios about the calling-in rule were discussed

Protest Commitee:

GS asked about impact from recent past protests.  One team taking a season off for unrelated reasons

PR Committee:

MA is short of posters – wants them emailed to him so he can print some out.  Some interest to join league evidently didn’t follow through.  Salingers opened a side room.  JK suggested new poster with all the year’s sign ups on it that can stay in the bars for the full year.  TM has been to McGuinness but no boards.  CJ asked about getting old bars back – previous effort to do so didn’t come up with much success mainly because we don’t supply teams – our most common stoppage point.  Can we encourage teams from multiple team taverns to go to extend coverage area.  JG asked for flyers to distribute to Hilton Hamlin league for distribution to interested parties.  CJ suggested creating local rivalries to drum up interest locally.  Salvatore’s in Webster has gone bar style.

Election of Officers

President:

Voted DD

Vice President:

Voted JK

Treasurer:

Voted MA

Secretary:

Nom: ED

Scorekeeper:

Nom: JK

Protest Commitee:

Chair: JK  Members: CJ, ML, GS (alternate)

Tournament Director:

Nom: GS

PR Committee:

Chair: MA  Member: GS  Board accountability

Steve Catherman:

(or Board Inspector to use official title) Steve Catherman.  JG willing to take over if workload of inspections increases again

Old Business:

Sign-up: 42 played.  ED felt hoodwinked.

Calendar printing: 60 to  be printed

#1: 4 attempts to contact Tom.  There are plenty of other suppliers around – we want to remove exclusivity of listing on website to include other resources and remove from sponsors listings (taverns only – separate listing of supplier sponsors)

Match Timing: Ongoing. JK presented his revised stats.

T-Shirts: Sold breast and one sleeve. 

New Business:

Goals/plans for 2011:  All to consider goals we want for the league this year to bring to next meeting.

½ year dues: Need to track those paid for a half year within the membership database.

Open Discussion:

Next month may be in the back room due to karaoke.  Survey responses.

Adjourn:

9:38pm